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Change the name of this article to "Pickle." No one on Earth says "pickled cucumber." This is a compromise that pleases no one. 2600:1700:4550:DC50:B4B2:5A3C:48AE:782C (talk) 04:33, 16 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2022[edit]

Change the first line from: "A pickled cucumber (commonly known as a pickle in the United States, Australia and Canada, and a gherkin in Britain, Ireland, South Africa, and New Zealand)"

"A pickled cucumber (commonly known as a pickle in the United States, and Canada, and a gherkin in Britain, Ireland, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand)"

The country characterisation was made by someone not living in Australia. They are called gherkins here, not pickles. (talk) 07:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EnIRtpf09bchat with me 11:17, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Requested move 19 September 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the pages to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 02:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

– As acknowledged in the lead sentence of this article, "pickle" is the WP:COMMONNAME in the United States, Australia and Canada, and is used in the UK as well, albeit not as much as in the aforementioned countries. "Pickled cucumber", on the other hand, is not a common name in any region. This page also represents the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the word "pickle". The title "Pickle" satisfies all of the WP:CRITERIA to be a title for this article. (talk) 23:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support per nom. Shwcz (talk) 00:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:07, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak oppose I'm not convinced there is a clear primary topic, Pickled cucumber has 17,737 views but Pickling has 11,353 and Pickleball has 92,556[[1]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • That just tells us popularity, not what they're most commonly referred to as. A relevant statistic is the clickstream and percentage of outgoing page views, both of which show Pickled cucumber as the most viewed article after visiting Pickle. ––FormalDude (talk) 14:03, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • That merely shows there are lots of people in America, who search for pickle because that's what they think a pickled cucumber is called and then follow the link to the article they're after! But this is not American Wikipedia and "pickle" does not universally mean a pickled cucumber. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        • It shows us there's lots of people in general that search for pickle because that's what they commonly refer to it as. The query is obviously not limited to America. It is limited to the English Wikipedia, but I fail to see how catering to English is a form of bias on an English encyclopedia. ––FormalDude (talk) 14:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
          • But as has already been established, it's only the common name in certain countries! Wikipedia caters to the whole English-speaking world and doesn't make a generic topic primary because it's primary in a specific country or even a few countries if it's not primary in the other major English-speaking countries. Given America is by far the most populous country in which a pickled cucumber is referred to as a pickle, it is likely that most of the searchers that went from pickle to pickled cucumber came from there, is it not? -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Clearly not the primary topic (there isn't one) and not the common name throughout the world (as it says in the article, commonly known as a gherkin in Britain, Ireland, South Africa, and New Zealand). Therefore best to retain the descriptive name and not go for a primary topic grab on fallacious terms. The article states that in three countries pickle is the common term and in four gherkin is the common term. In at least one of the latter countries, pickle means something entirely different. In India, another English-speaking country, it means something else again, as it does in other English-speaking countries in Asia and Africa. How, therefore, can this possibly be the primary topic unless you happen to come from America, Canada or Australia? Any claims that this is the primary topic or common name are very clearly entirely based on experiences in specific countries and not in the wider English-speaking world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Common name in a very small amount of countries. Doctorhawkes (talk) 01:09, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Necrothesp. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Per WP:NWFCTM. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 13:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.